I spoke last week at a real estate investment club and shared with the audience my belief that foreclosures will trickle out over a very long time rather than come as a wave of foreclosures as others continue to inaccurately predict.
I do however, understand the nature of those predictions. Given the number of households that aren’t paying their mortgage (delinquencies) we should be seeing a massive wave of foreclosure notices, and ultimately foreclosure sales. It’s a logical conclusion. But this has become a political problem in a world of financial fantasy, so I don’t believe that simple logic applies.
The reality is that through financial engineering (interest only, subprime, swaps, option ARMs, negative equity, stated income, etc.,) we created trillions in excess mortgage debt that has left millions of homeowners underwater, financial institutions on the brink of collapse, and the FDIC nearly insolvent. Back in September 2008 it became clear that financial collapse was imminent, and the federal government did what it does best – bailed out those who caused the crisis while leaving taxpayers holding the bag for the losses. Pulling this hat trick off required one simple ruse – getting everyone to believe that those losses ultimately wouldn’t be very big.
To do this the government changed the rules. The FDIC who previously forced banks to get bad assets off their books became a leading proponent of saving homeowners with loan modifications that likely just delay the inevitable. With a little government pressure, the supposedly independent Federal Accounting Standards Board was pressured into letting banks account for loans at theoretical values based on computer models rather than current market value.
Next they began rolling out an acronym soup of programs, which they promoted as being help for America’s homeowners – HAMP, HAFA, HARP, 2MP and more. But the reality is that to date these programs have resulted in little more than delays. The government and lenders say that these failures are due to complexities of implementation, difficulty reaching homeowners and a sundry other things. But what if these programs were never intended to succeed? What if they were simply intended to create delays, provide false hope, and maybe get the banks a bit more cash out of homeowners in the form of trial loan modification payments?
Sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory, I know, but hear me out.
The problem faced by both lenders and the government is that they can neither afford to kick homeowners out, or bail them out. For lenders, either scenario forces losses to be recognized, while thanks to mark-to-model accounting rules, and little or no pressure to foreclose from the FDIC, they can instead leave non-paying homeowner in place and push those losses into the future. Many believe that most major corporations manage earnings, what could be more perfect than getting to choose when, and if, they recognize mortgage related losses. For the U.S. government either scenario is political death. Politicians have no appetite for allowing banks to put families on the street en masse through foreclosure, nor forcing banks to deal with the problem through bankruptcy cram-downs or other means. At the same time they realize their constituents who do pay their mortgage (or rent) simply won’t stand for a taxpayer funded bailout of their upside down neighbor. Instead, it seems they believe bailouts should be saved for the truly deserving like the executives and corporate shareholders of banks, AIG, GM, etc.
If we aren’t willing to either kick non-paying homeowners out of their homes, or bail them out, what other option is there? The answer is clear. It’s the same thing we’ve done with national deficits for years. Trade tomorrow for today, with a policy of extend and pretend. I have no doubt this is the present policy, and that this will be the policy for years to come as we work through wiping out the trillions in excess negative equity that was created during the bubble.
A member of the audience during my talk asked if this policy was really possible, after all we can’t just let non-paying homeowners stay in their homes forever. If paying homeowners figured that out, everyone would stop paying, and then our financial system would crumble. I agree, and it’s clear the banks realize this too. But it is a problem that is easily solved by the diabolical game of Russian roulette. So long as lenders continue to foreclose on at least a handful of homeowners each month, in what from all appearances is a completely random game of chance, they’ll keep those willing and able to pay their mortgage doing so. Those who decide not to pay their mortgage will find themselves playing today’s update on the Russian game, Foreclosure Roulette, wondering each month whether they’ll get another free month in their prison of debt, or finally be shot and forced to move.

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Is this still accurate and up to date today? 2012?
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As a former homeowner in California who had a successful short sale after duel job loss and a house that lost $160K in value, I can say that if the banks will not work with borrowers experiencing financial devastation and/or significant house depreciation then homeowners should simply walk away. I think the real reason for a lack for increased defaults is the lack of information, false hope, and ‘shame’ factor on the part of borrowers. We were initially willing to pay our mortgage from our savings to ‘do the right thing’ and because we (my wife) never wanted to be a person who defaulted and felt ‘shamed’ by not being able to pay. We soon realized that many, many people were in the same situation as we were.
Our experience and that of everyone else we spoke with was the same. The banks do not care about the borrower’s situation and are solely focused on collection by nearly any means necessary (banks tell borrowers to sell 401k, cars, borrow money from family, etc.). The result is that many homeowners are left financially ruined, jaded, and will never buy a house again, or become educated and strategically default to preserve what remains of their finances. This ‘lack of compassion’ approach by the lenders will eventually lead to an increased awareness by underwater homeowners of ‘strategic/forced defaults’ as the only financially appropriate way to deal with their situation. In addition, when homeowner’s realize that the banks face the very high cost of litigation to collect a deficiency and homeowner’s option to declaring bankruptcy after any resulting successful litigation, those people facing a dramatic drop in home values may also simply walk. Being protected by California non-recouse loans made the decision a no-brainer. Now with a successful short sale and no way for the bank to collect the $160K deficiency (or tax bill the debt forgiveness) , I’m spreading the word (see my whole story at foreclosuredocuments.com – I’ve posted all the documents we received from the bank during the process in chronological order).
Bottom line is that homeowner education and the ‘normalization’ of strategic/non-strategic defaults in society may lead to an even larger number of foreclosures/short sales.
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I completely agree with everything you said! I’ve been thinking the same thing. It’s not a crazy conspiracy theory, its the truth. Especially since borrowers in non-deficiency states who modify or refinance to help lower payments, may have a harder time keeping the banks from seeking a deficiency judgement in the future (precisely becuz they refinanced).
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love it!!!
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I agree with Sean. I’m a Realtor and have been slogging through short sales for the last 3 years. I’ve been through 3 this year in the HAFA program, BofA’s cooperative short sale program and Chase’s HAFA like program. In all three cases the “valuations” were so far off, no one would write an offer. When I told the bank the market was not only not responding, it was dead. It’s still real estate, no offers= property is overpriced. I’m about to lose two to foreclosure as the market dropped and the bank dragged their feet. I’ve spoken to countless homeowners who were given false hope of a loan modification made another four months or more of payments (running up their credit cards, borrowing from family etc) only to be turned down and told their house is going to auction. I can tell a homeowner in 3 minutes whether they’ll qualify for a loan mod. Is your payment more than 31% of your net income? Duh. That means if your payment is $2000 a month you have to be earning $9000 gross income to make your house payment. I agree with Sean. I’m on the street every day watching the market. I wish I could get more people to listen and face the sad hard fact that you can’t make a $2000 house payment while you earn 35k a year. And then there are all the families breaking up trying to hang on to a stupid house they’ll be mired in debt for the rest of their lives and have no chance of saving.
Great info as always Sean,
What are your thoughts of this:
My SD realtor group works almost exclusively with short sellers. We are now getting notices directly from lenders stating they will no longer extend short sale approval dates. The clear message is “close by the date we approve or we will proceed with the Trustee Sale, period”. Given this, would you expect cancellations to decline and auction sales to increase? Thanks, appreciate your input
Lenders are having a tough time keeping the foreclosure process and the short sale process in sync. We’ve seen many cases where the short sale group agreed to postpone, but the message never got to the foreclosure group causing the lenders a lot of headaches (having to overturn foreclosure sales and or closed escrows).
This change in policy reflects that reality. But it doesn’t change the reality that banks are not eager to foreclose, so no I don’t expect it to result in any real increase in auction sales.
Bottom line: by never “agreeing” to postpone a sale, and be clearly providing the warning you mention, they don’t have to worry about having to overturn a foreclosure sale in the event they make a mistake. I would not read more into it than that.
Why not let the Fed loan money to the banks at 0%
and automatic reduction to the homeowners that want to stay in their homes to 2 or 3%. This would end the flood
of foreclosures. Then Lend the 2-3% money to purchasers
that purchase homes already in foreclosure. This would
reduce foreclosures to normal rates and clean up the inventory of foreclosures that depress the market.
With this approach the housing market problems could be
solved probably in a years time. It would also allow banks
to keep the homes on the books at original values.
With housing fixed, the rest of the economy would quickly
recover.
Then put freezes on the federal budget for the next 10 years to allow the economy to catch up to the horrendous
deficits being created.
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There are so many programs out there that homeowners that are now contacting me to short sell their homes can’t even keep track of what programs they’ve already applied for.
By the time they contact me they are often confused, discouraged and just plain out infuriated.
Too many programs with no rhyme or reason except for what you state — to confuse and delay the inevitable.
It’s kind of obvious when you have 40+ pages detailing a program that could have been stated in two pages at the most what the real intentions are.
Thank you for all this info. Unfortunately this is what is happening with a lot of homes these days.
Sherri
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Sean,
Your post is right on the money! I have been selling bank owned homes for years and your post looks as another possibility. Lenders in California simply postpone the auctions. They don’t take the homes back for a very long time if at all. I would love to see some data on how many homes have Notice of Trustee Sales postponed.
Great job!
We actually track the number of scheduled foreclosures that are postponing. Check out our CA Foreclosure Report and take a look at Scheduled Sales. If you compare that to the number of new Notices of Trustee Sale that schedules the first foreclosure sale, you’ll see that many, many are just being postponed.
I received a Notice of Trustee’s Sale this past Saturday, stating that our home will sell on 12/09/2010 at the entrance to the Courthouse at public auction. Is there a way to postpone this date? I live in Orange County, California. First lien, Bank of America, Second lien CitiBank. We’d like to stay (and pay) in our home.
You have the legal right to reinstate your mortgage up and until 5 days before the scheduled sale date. To reinstate simply pay all past due amounts to bring the loan current.
If you are unable to do that than you could inquire about loan modification or repayment plan for the past due amount, but the lender may not be legally obligated to do either.
I felt compelled to write in a comment when I saw your article. Everything you wrote was dead on. I’m a struglling homeowner that is in between the desire to foreclosure or accept a short sale that has already been approved by the lender, second T.D. and a third lien! It should be a no brainer to just accept the short sale but I feel very hurt and very abandoned and misled by the same system that gave billions of dollars to these lenders that I would like to call thieves. You’re right about being given false hopes. I hope someone that is capable of amending this horror be able to change the way it is and even by then, my family will just be another statistics that feel behind and would be left homeless.
After someone I know spent months and money trying to close a short sale, and after the lender had ‘approved’ the amount and seemed ready to close, the lender suddenly announced that it would proceed to non judicial foreclosure after all. I was able to reach someone at the bank, who explained that it was his understanding that the loan was in some way insured and that agreeing to a short sale would somehow release the insurer, so the lender had no choice but to foreclose if it wanted to recover the full loan amount.When I asked him why did the lender waste everybody’s time (the seller, the agents, my friend), and not notify all concerned from the outset that the loan was not available for short sale, he said they were trying but hadn’t been able to get that organized.
Any thoughts on that scenariou?
Thanks.
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Thank you Sean. Again, great article.
Rob
I completely agree and have been saying something to this effect for the last year.
Bravo for the commentary. If it’s ok, I’ll reprint this on my blog with all author credits and backlink.
Awesome job.
Rob Saxe
Thanks Rob. Please feel free to repost with backlink, much appreciated.
What this article says, is exactly what Im seeing. Ive bought 16 REOs in the last 2 years, and growing, and this is spot on.
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I think the article is as close as one can get to the truth about the reo / foreclosure market. The one component missing is the short sale scenerio which allows the banks to make what appears to be a bit more than if the asset was an reo. No legal fees, keeps a non payer in the home,( at least no one steals everything including, a/c, water systems, light fixtures, sinks cabinets, and whatever else they can fit in their truck) and it buys time in the hopes that the market may turn around. Although the latter statement I do not see happening for years to come.
Sorry, should have been more clear. I see the short sale efforts being similar to the mods in that there will be a bunch of noise, and little action (some approved, but more will die due obstacles like recourse). Big difference between short sales and most loan mods though is that it actually cleans up negative equity, rather than pushing it off to the future. I think short sales are one of the best ways to get through this, and would like to see more. But I don’t expect they will ever ramp that significantly for the reasons outlined above.
Steal? The home and its contents are yours until the foreclosure sale.
That’s not actually true. If you have a loan you gave a deed of trust to a trustee pledging the home as security. If you remove or damage parts of the home that were part of that pledge you are stealing (committing “waste”). Note that the non-recourse laws that protect homeowners from lenders pursuing them for losses exclude cases of fraud or >waste<. As such the idiots that steal appliances, lights, and other fixtures may find the last laugh is on them when the lender not only gets to come after them for the replacement of those items…. but ALL losses the lender had on the loan. Oops.
What happens when you have put in all new appliances, new ceiling fans, etc. put in thousands of dollars worth of upgrades – you sadly leave it all behind and lose all that $$ YOU PUT INTO YOUR HOME!!! The banks don’t care that that was your HOME and you safe place. they don’t care that the value has taken a noise dive..
That’s why people take things when they leave – i’m looking at what to do with my home, i have been current for the past 3 years and this year I have no way of keeping up with my payments and am deciding what to do…and sadly i will leave everything i’ve put into the home behind if it gets foreclosed or short sale…either way i will walk away have lost over 60K….does the government care – NO!!!
Jayce – note that you can take appliances that are not built-in with you, typically the freestanding fridge, washer and dryer. Beyond that the items are considered fixtures, and you are right that those items must be left. That said, if you have a particular fixture you are fond of I see no reason why you couldn’t replace it with a cheaper item. Best of luck.
Hate to break the news but the recession is over. If one more peosrn this week calls me about a job I will just start yelling, the cuts were deep and hard but now the street is roaring back to life!!!!!!! Sad part is housing’s fall has been stopped by rising bonds, stocks, bonuses and raises making a comeback, if joblesness falls below 8% look for a new bubble brewing.
I am a bit surprised at the lack of depth of the causes in the post. There is no mention of the possibility of reconveyance without recording, multiple selling of loans or parts of the PM and deed, full repayment for the loan from bailouts, the insurance scams, the idea that one loan was in several vehicles at one time, the loan obligation destroyed by the splitting of deed and note, statements by electronic data base companies as to their destroying the note to make their service more valuable. To assume there is a debt the homeowner might owe, or its actual monetary value is not certain, and assuming it exists with the knowledge of the bailouts makes it contradictory. No bank answers discovery requests in foreclosure matters, is the author not aware of this?
Go to your county recorder and begin looking at documents for non judicial foreclosure. You may notice a pattern that I have. There is no sign of a party of interest. If the document says MERS, it is likely void now, or will be as all 50 states find the “business model” was one designed for tax evasion and outright criminal activity.
We have only seen the iceberg on the horizon. When we see its true size, it will become the horizon.
The whacky MERS argument doesn’t hold water. Too easy to fix. Lost note affidavits have been around for a long time, and it is going to be super hard for those homeowners to prove they didn’t actually borrow the money. Sure, there have been a couple of nice gimme’s from a couple of activist judges but if you are really believe homeowners will get out of their debts because lenders recorded documents using MERS, or from other correctable mistakes, then you have no idea who actually runs this country. About the only thing this argument will do is allow a handful of unscrupulous lawyers to offer false hope to homeowners in exchange for fees.
Hi Sean,
I enjoyed your commentary on what can very well be the situation in the default mortgage market today. It’s evident there are many behind-the-scenes elements involved, both politically and privately, that are causing this extensive and mystifying stalemate of massive amounts of REO inventory. Borrowers are more savvy too. Within recent months I note that 80% of my newly-assigned residential REO is occupied. Defaulted homeowners are digging their heals in. The overall situation with our country is astounding and it appears even the “experts” are stumped and paralyzed on how to proceed.
Thanks for taking the time to write what you did.
My best,
Margot Murphy, real estate broker and business trainer
Portland, Oregon